Whoop whoop i've a new deal...however

[Pjalchemist]

Okay some know i do this crazy sport on a mountain bike, hoping over stuff and doing shows. 2006 i took a bad fall, latter followed by nasty car crash. 2007 i was in plaster loads with broken bones and just trying to heal up. My sponser stayed true to me offering me a window as and when i wanted and could go back. In the end i had enough and pulled out of anyhting for 2007, my sponser was sad but very helpfull non the less.

2008 Jan 2nd, had my passing off im medicly fit (though i have beer belly now), im wanting to get on a bike and kick some butt asap. Oh and the new misses helps as she digs me on a bike.

After a few days of talks a deal has been done and custom frame has been drawn up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/corsapete/Forum%20stuff/Stock20V220copy.jpg

Yes all 100% cnc sections then TIG welded togther. Hand made in the USA!

Geometry

Wheelbase: Long 1095mm
Chainstay Length: 385mm
BB Rise: Long 30mm
Head Angle: 71.5 degrees
Centre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: 670mm (26.5")

Some may understand that and others wont, who knows. It's totaly new for me this geo, the frame i bought recent has it and i feel really at home on on it so i've taken the geo and used it in whats to be my custom frame.

What does this mean then pc wise etc.

I will still work for the MOD, i will still use a pc. I need to train hard, get use to a bike again and build the underlining musscle we use in trials that you can not via any other sport even the gym!

Once im happy and my physio is im off on demo runs, so my time will be limited. I'd do my day job with the MOD but the PC line will have to take a back seat i think. It's early days and anything can happen.

Everything has just been confermed via an e-mail along with a 2008 ridding contract of demos only. Comps might be something i will re-partake in.

Sadly this will mean i wont be able to bump the UK and BT up on bench marks as much as i had planned.

Will keep you up too date on the progress, frame build time is 3 days of cnc, day welding, day of polishing and anodizing prep, day finishing then it's ether i go out to the usa for few days and get it or Dang (my new boss) comes here.

I don't think i have felt this happy.

sad to let BT and Uk down on bench markings but like ive said anything can happen.

Pete

[Dualist]

Very nice frame Pete ;)


Yes all 100% cnc sections then TIG welded togther. Hand made in the USA!

But hell, I'm glad I'm not paying for it :lol:

[maverik-sg1]

Good luck man - try not to break anything, especially that beautiful frame :)

[S3r3nity]

Hey, good luck and hope it goes very well for you

[Johnny Bravo]

good grief trails frames have come along way since I last dabbled in the sport!

Beautiful frame Pete gotta show us the finished job. What rims/hub combo are you gonna run?

[Pjalchemist]

Very nice frame Pete ;)

But hell, I'm glad I'm not paying for it :lol:

£3000 USD is the price for the frame in raw. Glad i get 2 of them for free to start with

Good luck man - try not to break anything, especially that beautiful frame :)

Part of my job is to try and kill the frame!

Hey, good luck and hope it goes very well for you

Cheers fella

good grief trails frames have come along way since I last dabbled in the sport!

Beautiful frame Pete gotta show us the finished job. What rims/hub combo are you gonna run?

Hope Tech is owned by family so im going to use a Hope Pro II 28H that i will mod once it arrives, have also ordered a Pro II rear trials 32H as i use Chris Kings ISO with stainless steal drive and HD axle or a single speed. I might use the king for the pimp factor.

Rim's, Trials UK who are behind a company called Viz have some new rims in devlopment, they are cnc'd as well, i'm trying to get a pair of them, 39mm single wall front, 50mm rear doubble wall. if not then a pair of Koxx rims, single front modded with drilled side walls and i will file out square holes and the rear be stock 32h doubble wall.

I got some photos of the mod Dang just built for him self, i will get them up loaded asap

[Pjalchemist]

Warning 56k!!!!!!!!!!!!

As promissed photos of Dangs mod frame he just built. Mod is 20'' wheeled (well 20'' front and 19'' rear), stock is 26'' F & R.

1025 WB
+45 BB
362 CS
71 deg. HT
24.5" cockpit dimension

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[Pjalchemist]

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[Pjalchemist]

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[Pjalchemist]

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[Pjalchemist]

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[Pjalchemist]

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Last photo is of an Echo Bike Urban 26'' frame, these are year and year old, JB you might of rode one i duno. Just shows the differnce and refrances etc etc

Sorry for all the photos but they are well worth it i think. i can't wait to get mine build and get out on it!

[skull_fcuk]

Goddam that is a thing of beauty. I recently paid £500 quid for a Giant XTC Se (2007) but i'm ashamed i havent listened to my dog, and it languishes in the shed. Im glad you've found a way back to where you're happiest. Keep us updated with your progress, and vids would be nice ;)

[Dualist]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/corsapete/Forum%20stuff/IMG_6264.jpg

I see a couple of clamps at the back end, I hope this wasn't the jig for welding.? Welds could be neater though :p

But the machining looks top notch. ;)

[Pjalchemist]

Goddam that is a thing of beauty. I recently paid £500 quid for a Giant XTC Se (2007) but i'm ashamed i havent listened to my dog, and it languishes in the shed. Im glad you've found a way back to where you're happiest. Keep us updated with your progress, and vids would be nice ;)

I still use my Giant Faith DH rig, not that much sadly. I will keep you full up to date

I see a couple of clamps at the back end, I hope this wasn't the jig for welding.? Welds could be neater though :p

But the machining looks top notch. ;)

Well as it's cnc'd there is no direct need to use a jig. Normal frame building there is but this no need. However he is going to be using a jig on his next build which is a newer version of his frame. Also that frame i showed was his 1st go at aluminum welding which is dam hard.

We've got a guy that is an aluminum frame builder and very well known for it to do all our welding. Tig relys on getting the heat into it, as you can see heatube he kinda failed to do so!

[Dualist]

Well as it's cnc'd there is no direct need to use a jig. Normal frame building there is but this no need.

Utter crap, if you weld you need a jig or some need to clamp in place. Especially Ali as it distorts all over the place. Is he heat treating it.? Not necessary on 7000 series Ali (as it gets it's strength back after welding over time) but 'owt else (ie HE30 (6082)), he'll have too and for that he'll need a jig for it.
Should make an interesting ride ;)

[echelon101]

That looks very very nice!

Just bought a Saracen Tour 07 for £180 off Ebay and £5 to get it serviced. Nice and light. Already got a basic GT Aggressor 3.0 as a little off-roader.

Although as I am bit of an amateur when it comes to bikes I pose the question is there a reason why you haven't incorporated rear suspension, I see all these mountain bikes at like >£900 with massive rear suspension yet you don't have it...

[thor]

Its a totally different style of riding. If you've ever seen "kids" hoping up onto benches, walls, rails etc from their back wheels its basically that, you dont need the suspension really. Good tyres, dont need the front mech cause you only need the low gears. (Well thats what I can remember when my mates were into it).
That new craze where people jump of roofs and go into rolls, backflips etc (can't remember what thats called) but trial riding is a bit similar but on bikes. (well I think so!)

[4Qman]

That new craze where people jump of roofs and go into rolls, backflips etc (can't remember what thats called) but trial riding is a bit similar but on bikes. (well I think so!)

Parkour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaopu5W8Ryg

[Stocky]

Very nice looking frame. I'd like to see some porn pics of the bike when it's built up please :)

[K404]

insert jokes about smooth metal poles here!

[Johnny Bravo]

My XC rides were
Specilized FSR XC comp (got nicked after 6 weeks :( )
Merlin Custom build ("cheap" replacement for the FSR)
Airborne Lancaster Titanium custom build (My long time baby - floaty light and british build!)

My trails bike was cobbled together from a pashley 26MHz frame and some DH gear for sturdiness!

looking good so far Pete ;)

[Pjalchemist]

Utter crap, if you weld you need a jig or some need to clamp in place. Especially Ali as it distorts all over the place. Is he heat treating it.? Not necessary on 7000 series Ali (as it gets it's strength back after welding over time) but 'owt else (ie HE30 (6082)), he'll have too and for that he'll need a jig for it.
Should make an interesting ride ;)

Nope, i built lots of frames when i worked for both ARC and Pashley and didn't use a jig. All were jiged before heat treatment and and after.

The cnc allows no jig to be used as each part will be bang on to what ever the spec of the machine is. However we will be using one, Anvil Bikeworks jobby, full on pc controled auto geo and frame bending all built in. Any aluminum thats being weled needs heattreatment. Trust me i work in the aerospace ind and i see it all go through hell and daily use. They are being heat treated no matter what as the stree we put through it will kill it, let alone the welding.

That looks very very nice!

Just bought a Saracen Tour 07 for £180 off Ebay and £5 to get it serviced. Nice and light. Already got a basic GT Aggressor 3.0 as a little off-roader.

Although as I am bit of an amateur when it comes to bikes I pose the question is there a reason why you haven't incorporated rear suspension, I see all these mountain bikes at like >£900 with massive rear suspension yet you don't have it...

trials does not use it. It works by the bike being riged all over. This alows the control and power to be put through the thing. Though i have rode trails on a full sus for a laugh, it sone broke and was dam hard to ride.

Saracen make some nice stuff. My 1st dh bike was the Havoc back in 1998 when it came out then i moved to trials rapidly as its was underground and dam cool.

Its a totally different style of riding. If you've ever seen "kids" hoping up onto benches, walls, rails etc from their back wheels its basically that, you dont need the suspension really. Good tyres, dont need the front mech cause you only need the low gears. (Well thats what I can remember when my mates were into it).
That new craze where people jump of roofs and go into rolls, backflips etc (can't remember what thats called) but trial riding is a bit similar but on bikes. (well I think so!)

Single speed (1 gear), 2.5'' rear, 2,35'' front, grind on the rims, thats the basics of today sort of but yeah ya right 99% of our moves are all rear wheel.

Le Parkour or free running, foot trials is basicly the same as trials, the way they preload and move and land is the same. See a decent trials video then see a decent parkour vid and you'll see

Parkour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaopu5W8Ryg

Spot on!

Very nice looking frame. I'd like to see some porn pics of the bike when it's built up please :)

Will do dude, i just spent the day whilest at work ordering all my new kit off my smaller sponsers. I can't wait to play with all the kit as every part is getting mnodded to be differnt, work better and be lighter!

insert jokes about smooth metal poles here!

Trust you eh, go on lets see what you can pull off

My XC rides were
Specilized FSR XC comp (got nicked after 6 weeks :( )
Merlin Custom build ("cheap" replacement for the FSR)
Airborne Lancaster Titanium custom build (My long time baby - floaty light and british build!)

My trails bike was cobbled together from a pashley 26MHz frame and some DH gear for sturdiness!

looking good so far Pete ;)

Pashley 26mhz with a set of Fatty R's, 130mm 0* rise stem, Middle burns with 20/22t to 17/19t was an amazing thing to ride. Too short by todays std's but it rode amazingly well and was the main break in trials back in the day. I use to ride loads with both Eddy and Matt then Matt went gay and left then Eddy latter then Matt came back and i left working there as the frame just were worth scrap metal (the 26Ghz that is).

Just ordered my new forks, dang is making me some cnc'd dropouts for me for them as the forks are not for trials but with the new dropouts they have a +30mm disc, this will allow me to run a 190mm front disc with a 160mm caliper. oh and there carbon forks, going for 600gm mark, my last set where 465gm and only snapped when the bike fell off my car!



Dave - that video is mental. i will try and get hold of the local le parkour boys and girls i did a video with in Plymouth, they did there thing and i did trials, it's a perfect mix and shows how both work. I learnt loads off them and vice versa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TdYu1Fwq9g&feature=related

This is trials, tipical group ride we have most weekends on the streets all over the uk.

[Dualist]

However we will be using one, Anvil Bikeworks jobby, full on pc controled auto geo and frame bending all built in.


Nice ;)
(Glad you didn't take offence by my post dude.)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TdYu1Fwq9g&feature=related
This is trials, tipical group ride we have most weekends on the streets all over the uk.

That vid is awesome, CPC magazine benchmark springs to mind :D

[Pjalchemist]

What i'm thinking is getting bench tech logo laser etched on my frame once i've had it anodized. I'll be doing demo world wide so might as well get some advertizing about the place.

Dualist, i belive were all alowed our inputs and belifes etc etc, and a friendly point of view is always welcome mate.

[Pjalchemist]

Small update, been tweaking the frame a bit more both Dang and my self today.

Here is a video of it being modled in eDrawer

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2LN4RPF

Easton has let us down on some of the rear tubing so having to re-think things quick. Dangs frame is in heattreatment right now and will be rideable by feb

I also got all my Hope kit today as im now sponsered by them. I'll get some photos shortly but it's a 1 off green for Hope team only

[Stocky]

I also got all my Hope kit today as im now sponsered by them. I'll get some photos shortly but it's a 1 off green for Hope team only

Sounds cool! I run Hope on my mountain bike, but the lower end stuff :huh:

Get some pics of em' up :waiting: