re-tune or ...

[jabski]

HI
With my custom phase unit some times it will start up and the evap will get to around -58 then just start counting backup to -5 (critical temp). This is only sometimes and i can restart the unit 5 mins later and it will hold temps fine. Is this a bad mount / insulation or does the unit need a re-tune or .. ?? Did it with both QX9650 and E6850.
Many thanks

[Stocky]

Is the compressor still on while it is counting back? Is the temp really falling, or is it just the controller/ display telling you that it is?

[jabski]

Yes & yes not the controller reading falsely

[4Qman]

So you try it and it reaches -58 then climes towards + temps. You try it again and it will hold.

Fans on condenser working properly? Controller?

[jabski]

controller is right as i checked temps in bios and they were climbing too so i dont think its the controller. Now its being very strange and wont go over -40 without any load. And with a E6850 at 1.675v it will go into + temps (bios reading). Strange as it held my Qx9650 at 1.76v. Guess it needs tuning a bit more ...
Anyone living in London area able to do that for me ??

[Pjalchemist]

ASk Thicky nicely. Sounds a bit fault the unit though. Ignor the BIOS and controler and get K-type prob thats been calibrated on there, only way to get a true ideal what temp the evap etc etc are

[Stocky]

Could it be the compressor failing? If it were a gas leak it wouldn't pull down, would it?

How does it sound?

[jabski]

yeah thanks pete will speak to him later
@Stocky - it just sounds normal. No strange noises.

Might just be my E6850 being strange. Its a ES and the temps it runs at are super hot. On water at 3.8 it would idle at 34 load at 59. Checked the mount ten times and still did it. Will check my unit again with a E8500 once i get one :)

[Pjalchemist]

Condenser fan is running right? if you were local to me i'd have a gander over it for you.

What is you unit, age, build spec etc etc

[jabski]

unit was built in June last year. Cant get the spec of it i am afraid. I am considering a cascade so not sure weather to ship this to someone for a retune or ship it to them to use on a cascade build.
Who's building them in the UK at the moment ??

[4Qman]

Could it be the compressor failing? If it were a gas leak it wouldn't pull down, would it?

How does it sound?

It would pull down if a leak just wouldn't hold any load.

If the e6850 kicked out more than the Qx9650 then this would indicate that the unit isnt capable of holding this load and undercharged and might be ok for new 45nm CPU's.

Id try again because if it was holding the CPU's fine before then it sounds like a smal leak to me.

Dave

[Pjalchemist]

unit was built in June last year. Cant get the spec of it i am afraid. I am considering a cascade so not sure weather to ship this to someone for a retune or ship it to them to use on a cascade build.
Who's building them in the UK at the moment ??

Who built it? is it your normal SS or a rotarty unit? Any photos?

If a normal SS then unless it's a Danfoss SC21 then you can use that on the 1stage, if a NL11F you can get one more NL11F and make a cascade out of that, won't be amazing but be quite!

Gray Mole has moved, he's setting his new workshop as we speak.

Thicky i have no idea, bit of both

Bazx and the rest and my self personal only.

I'll look at locals to help them thats all, sorry

[jabski]

it was built by ian parry (pazza316 @xs). Tried to pm/email him but got no reply.

[Pjalchemist]

it was built by ian parry (pazza316 @xs). Tried to pm/email him but got no reply.

You won't. He has gone off the face of the earth. Oh and he is a fraud owing a lot of money to Mr Cold Ice and Mr Dimas. Wonder why Tom @ CPC no longer does phase work with him!!! Any number of things will be wrong with you unit.

It's probs just a Danfoss NL11F or some other small random hermetic compress which aint any use for cascade!

I think it could be, under charged, possible overcharged, oil issue, maybe a blocked cap tube, a leak is very very likely.

No matter what the unit is going to cost a bit to fix.

Get a photo with the side off see we can see the guubbings of the unit. We can then work out some of the spec of what it's ment to possibly be!

Sorry to be the bad news guy but go check XS for his build and people questioning them oh and the build/customer relations topic.

Sorry once again

[jabski]

ok thanks for the heads up pete. Going to to talk to mav now.

[maverik-sg1]

Guys,

Can we keep to the thread topic without flaming someone.

Comparisons and hearsay do not make up a good read.

Post edited.

Cheers

Mav

[Pjalchemist]

ok thanks for the heads up pete. Going to to talk to mav now.

No worrise mate, just be carefull with the thing

Guys,

Can we keep to the thread topic without flaming someone.

Comparisons and hearsay do not make up a good read.

Post edited.

Cheers

Mav

Mav it's more of a safty thing. There is not hearsay but there is direct proff as i said if you go look and ask! No need to edi9t my post i personly think ether, the facts are true and there. I wait for Scotty to come back me up on it
But yeah what ever i guess

[I.L.P]

yeah thanks pete will speak to him later
@Stocky - it just sounds normal. No strange noises.

Might just be my E6850 being strange. Its a ES and the temps it runs at are super hot. On water at 3.8 it would idle at 34 load at 59. Checked the mount ten times and still did it. Will check my unit again with a E8500 once i get one :)

thats roughly what my E6850 ES does on water temps wise, what sort of FSB's are ya getting? mines a monster FSB wise, but doesn't clock very high on the old water.

[jabski]

yeah my E6850 temps are wild. Water wouldnt hold them much over 3.8ghz

I will open up my ss unit in the week and stick a few pics up once i have done.

[Nol]

Sounds like it just can't handle the load.
What is the compressor temp?

[Stocky]

Slightly OT: Gray Mole has moved, he's setting his new workshop as we speak.

If you've been in contact with Gray, do you think you could get him to update me on my ssilencer build over at XS? I have a thread open in the customer relations area. I haven't heard form him in a while, so it'd be most appreciated :)

Back OT:

Does the temp fall even with the computer in the BIOS? Have you tried under-clocking/ under-volting the chip and reducing the heat output to see if this effects things at all?

[weescott]

Could it be the unit is built for benching but running in a normal position? It could be the evap is in the wrong position and causing floodback, overheating things and shutting down....maybe:unsure:

[jabski]

as i said it will only do the temp increase thing every now and then. Not always. Dunno why its being so picky with the E6850 as i would think that would be running cooler than a QX9650 even thou the quad is 45nm its still a quad and i had 1.73v through it. Floodback could well be the cause as it was tuned (supposably)for quad. I dunno really. Need to get some £££ together and get a cascade i guess. Or wait till i move house then just buy cpu/gpu pots and use dry ice :)

[Nol]

Try starting the comp with evap at -30 next time, dont let it get down so far.

[Heofz]

sorry for old thread revival but concerning pazza316 (Ian Parry), I thought that you guys would probably want to know my story with him:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190088

[Nathanial]

sorry for old thread revival but concerning pazza316 (Ian Parry), I thought that you guys would probably want to know my story with him:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190088

Sorry to hear about this man, you need to catch him and throw him down a well or something [Borat Style] :lol: I couldnt reccomend you anything but for all your phase stuff you should have PM LittleDevil.

Nathanial